This is why I said should not will. I would move EVERYTHING 25 miles West to Davenport Iowa. I imagine that there will be a few FFLs leaving IL. Might see if you can find one to test out. This will damage Springfield Armorys brand nation-wide, in a business where reputation is everything. You are both dead to me now. You can learn to make good parts on a CNC a lot faster than on a Bridgeport or SouthBend. When I found out that they hire Vets to assemble and test them, it was icing on the cake and I got one for low $400s. Well do our part in other states to support you. Made in US, SSteel frame, ambi controls, no mag safety, field strips/assembles in less than a minute with no tools or pulling trigger. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History. That is amazingly Larson first said Rock River Arms had broken ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturing Association which is only a four member board. Both companies are stalwart defenders of 2A rights and arent in the habit of heavily funding Bloomberg puppet, anti gun politicians, as has been discovered of both SA and RRA. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. There is too much crap that I dont have a choice on (can you believe EVERY RV tire is made in China? As the market changes so does our pricing. WebSo What Happened At Rock River Arms & Springfield Armory??? As for furniture, the BT 9 R9 Competition comes with a Hogue overmolded pistol grip and a four-position adjustable Rock River Arms buttstock. Those bastards. Its GENESEO and its still about 3 hours from Chicago. Wrong. Thats how capitalism works. People are watching everything the government and companies are doing now. But theyve already heard from their customers about the IFMA sell-out. We feel that IFMAs Bullshit. Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. Very close to where I grew up. Advertise their treachery. Springfield can drop dead, Ill support gun manufacturers who support me. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. Built on the companys RRAGE upper and lower receiver and handguard assemblies, the pistol delivers a sleek profile. I have talked to people in person in TN that were overjoyed at having Beretta move there. Or in the General Assembly. I dont think youre using that word right. Both Ruger and S&W learned from their mistakes, I do not know if these two can. Wheres the proof they had enough influence to dictate what that organization did. If anyone from SAs Corporate Communications department happens upon this post, please get this in front of Dennis Reese and let him know that his actions are shameful, and that he has just traded his honor for a paycheck. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. However, again I wasnt really in the market to add anything else from their company to my safe anyway. The rifle comes fully loaded with a Rock River two-stage Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Performance Tuned. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions. Dont need it, but I kinda like it. Ive gotten good deals and free shipping on Handguards from CTD. They are good weapons but I Cant help but feel betrayed when I look at them now. Damn This is turning into that mob with the torches looking for Frankenstein. Please focus on customer relations and positioning strategies. Should have just stuck to the point that hey, you can do anything you want to our dealers as long as you leave us out of it. Dont forget about the Ruger, Smith and Wesson sellout.. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Never sold out to foreign companies or parts sources or manufacturing or skimped on quality control. CMMG .300 blackout will become my next purchase. Companies move all the time. Ruger today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Its a freakin disaster. WebRock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer that produces a variety of rifles, pistols, and parts for civilian, law enforcement, and military markets. in some cases they are just as passionate about their brands. Initially I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but after I thought about Reeses statement, and now that Ive seen Larsons statement, I would have liked to see hecklers run Springfields employees right out of Atlanta. Expect deep, deep discounts on that warehouse full of XD-Es and Saints they were hoping to sell this summer. Under no circumstances would they sell me any magazines. In my collection i have a M1A, a Socom 16, a XDM in 45 and a XDmod2 in 9mm. Magpul moved to WY. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. Neither excuse is a proper justification. God Bless America, As a dealer I will no longer suggest either one of these firearm companies to my customers or stock them there are many other fine firearms on the market. RRA IS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT CAN MAKE A RELIABLE AR-10. IF WE LOSE RRA BECAUSE OF THIS HYSTERICAL REACTION, thats a blow to liberty. Im appalled that Rock River thinks that we are that gullible.. That kind of thing actually happens all the time in lobbying. thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. Most importantly, support our brothers in arms in Illinois. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Black Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Brake Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751B; Rock River Arms LAR-15 X-1 5.56mm Flat Dark Earth (FDE) Semi-Auto Rifle with RRA Beast Muzzle Br Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: XAR1751T; Was also saving up for an m1a. My target is when my oldest daughter graduates from high school. The innovation and embracing of modern ideas weve seen the last 10yrs (MSRs, suppressors, polymer everything, etc) never would have happened under Bill. They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? They ONLY DO WHAT THEIR CLIENTS TELL THEM TO DO. Did SA forget that this isnt 1988 anymore and that the internet exists? The local ones are more like highway bandits than gun dealers. If workers still want a job, its a reasonable commute. If your going to bash or boycott one then bash and boycott all. After the 2004 sunset of the Assault Weapons Ban, AR pistols developed rapidly and have become popular. Well, said. A whole lot of gun owners see the deal as a sell-out. Then beg for forgiveness. RRA models, like the RRAGE, LAR15, BTB, ATH, LAR68 & Light Mountain, are available in many different color options and calibers. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. Thanks for Nothing SA. I posted a similar comment on another article about the same subject matter, but again, and for emphasis: SPRINGFIELD IS DEAD TO ME. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. Imagine, a corrupt Illinois politician! Thank God we have a Rural King now here local. Good grip, low muzzle flip/recoil, ambi controls, no mag safety and very easy to strip/reassemble. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. And no one calls or emails the company that is one of the largest contributor the IFMA group. Now that I understand what occurred its pretty obvious as gunners we need to pass on Springfield and run to Henry. January 2023. What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? Along with lost new sales, this boneheaded move will kill resale values. The lobbyists sometimes seriously overestimate how happy something will make a member or simply dont have the time to keep the membership completely up to date with minute-by-minute updates on how wrangling over a bill is proceeding. That should be true. Going the other direction nobody would move. Even if its expensive, SA is in a better position to pay the fee than Hank and Ethels gun shop. and thats where the idea of 10 round limit for magazines originated,right from the mouth of Bill Ruger. Two more companies added to my do not buy from list. Everyone here is minding our business, because its our business where our money goes. All evidence to the contrary? After the backlash he closed down the store and retired. Hopefully this boycott will pass over with minimal job loss to the common machinist. Theyre sole purpose is to protect their own interests. At the same time, Rock River Arms began to build AR-15 style rifles. Rock River Arms also produces M1911 pattern pistols, bolt-action rifles, and AR-15 style pistols in assorted calibers. [5] [6] There is a story of a guy that got run out of business after a hurricane because he jacked his prices up for generators. Keller dropped IFMAs opposition, providing cover for a couple of wavering Senators to vote for the bill. No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. All businesses are licensed at the state level. Wasnt there big stink couple years ago about so called kitchen table FFLs not realy conducting business for living and just getting wholesale pricing on guns for themselves and their family members? Im not selling it because of this cluster, but Im not buying from RRA again either. I made the move to northwest Indiana 20 years ago. And whats worse, if it passes, Bloomberg will attempt to duplicate this legislation in all 50 states. We do not need traitors in our midst. They have no ethics. For folks like me, it is no longer enough to be willing to fight and die for these rights, but to be willing to kill for them as well. I think sometimes its just because they are new to the hobby of guns. I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. Nobody moves a company to New York (Remington has moved most out). Neither will have the working capitol to sustain a relocation. As an Illinois dealer, I will no longer stock, sell or support Rock River Arms or Springfield Armory products. Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. Thats rolling over and showing your belly while wagging your tail. The rights of citizens that theyve agreed to negotiate away will NEVER be restored. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. So how is screwing your loyal customer base and flipping them the bird to their faces sound business policy? Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. Thats kind of where Im at as well, REALLY pissed Im not going to be buying the Socom II Ive been saving for. And their quality has never wavered (damn straight). And dont give me this they have changed nonsense. Better sell that RRA while you still can. Who Makes Rock River Arms? $14.95 Per Firearm One $9.99 Charge For Any Amount of Accessories That being said, even if we do, Springfield is done as a company. This just proves that point. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. In your opinion. Except they are both under different ownership today. The response was to Mark about the others being vastly superior, not your comment. Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but check out Fulton Armory: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. We need to defend our legacy from the likes of them !! Rock River Arms had one seat. I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. For those who missed it, we broke the story late Thursday evening. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. I know people who continue to not buy Ruger even after his kids made up for the old mans traitorous ways. Sorry for the spelling error. I look at their site and the parts were available from the same warehouses at a higher price. That will never happen now. IRS records have also been found that shows Reese is on the board of IFMA. Last Updated. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. WebThis is the perfet mag for your LAR-15, and will work great in any AR-15 platform rifle. Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. Go and ask them and Youtube/Periscope their responses. First, they co-opt the name of a famous military armory to start a business with absolutely no ties to the original Springfield. That is sooo repetitious! Damage done. Screw them. Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. Theres no way to know for sure. They are more than welcome in southern Indiana. Probably go back to looking at CZ and Walther offerings. I just bought an EMP 3-inch. Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. Rock River Arms built its reputation on quality semi-automatic AR-pattern rifles and 1911 handguns. Good for them, too. Its about the same price as an M1A. Yes I am planning on moving. Well, now. If they are both single stage, they will basically feel the same. Its not difficult. Theyve come to the heart of flyover country because they know their anti-2A dogwont hunt back in Washington. Your Price: $744.13. Your Price: $744.13. Compare. It was a great decision, I have never looked back. The licensing fee? An American voting for a Democrat I realy liked this ranger officer mogel all stainless nice looking gun. Down side is nobody making spare mags for it yet other than Hornor Defense. Like other gun-manufacturers Springfield can move its operations to a gun-friendly state. Are they doing town halls? We need more FFLs down here so there will be some competition. Whats the feedback at the NRA show running like? If people werent buying at these prices than there would be no market. Bummer, I was considering a Springfield 1911 at some point. No they dont. F them. Smith and Ruger more than compensated for erroneous thinking. 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