honda pilot piston ring recall

REALLY TIRED OF IT . The plug eventually fouls, the engines misfires and the dashboard lights up. I have garaged it at the same address since that day. Update: now, after all 4 piston rings and spark plugs have been replaced, the van is diagnosed with bad engine. Having to closely monitor oil levels and add 2-3 quarts between oil changes. We research hundreds of models each So far its been running fine! I have a Honda Accord 2008 and my engine light began to blink and then the VSP light came on. In the mean time, Honda just lost a loyal customer. Honda obviously is refusing to fix the problem. kidde model p3010cu recall. I am at 115, 000 and my check engine light hasnt come on and it seems to be running fine. Please advice. Top Class I'm terrified to have it happen to me againbeing on a busy interstate when my van starts losing power and is difficult to maneuver. After having it two months spark plugs started going out, it was using excessive oil, and the engine was misfiring all the time. Cant they just put the old one back? 2011 Honda Pilot misfiring. It seems like it burns about a quart every two to three weeks. We did incurred expenses for towing and twice for car rentals. Document everything, bring it back to the dealer and have them check your oil every 1000 miles. I bought this car because I thought it would be dependable and worry free but I have to worry about maintaining oil levels. clear the misfire codes. There's plenty of "Scotty haters" on the internet but t Latest Post: Subaru 2006 FWD activation. I've posted a number of times, but had the same issue, same initial resolution, same issue come up again just a few thousand miles later. This is a brand new DNJ Piston Ring Set Oversize .020 in. I finished driving home (about 7 miles) and had it towed to the dealer. I have a 2012 Honda Crosstour and each time I have had it to the shop for a oil change I told the service manager that after I have come to a complete stop then go thru a intersection I have a hesitation was told by the service manager that it was due from slowing down then speeding up??? And then so did two more. Whoever left Honda odyclub.com is not in any way affiliated with Honda Motor Company, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. A federal judge has granted final approval to a massive class action lawsuit settlement between American Honda Motor Co. and more than 1.87 million consumers who owned or leased a Honda Accord, Odyssey, Pilot, or Crosstour. Once the head and oil pan are removed at the dealer there is no getting back. When I search for problems with hondas when I purchased it nothing appeared. I had all of the above work done on my car Feb of 2014. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. I had my oil changed and 4 weeks later my car did not register any oil on the oil dip stick so this is effecting more then the V6 Honda Accords because mine is a 4 cylinder. My car is a Honda Odyssey 2012, does Honda would cover these expenses? My perspective is that Honda engineering pushed VCM a little to much to get their EPA rating up 1 or 2 miles to a gallon. This problem just started on 1/1/2015. Is this a big fix? I can get my oil changed and within 2 weeks my car is 2 quarts low on oil easily. I have a question around the whole Misfire Settlement agreement that Im hoping someone can help me with. I have been looking online to find anything about only cylinders 1-4 being covered but havent came across anything. Now now accelerator is getting worse in losing connection with the engine. I started burning 2 quarts of oil between oil changes and took it to the dealer. I dont understand how that is fair if it is a known problem. He confirmed that and through my dealer and Honda corporate office I had the pay a $300 deductible (instead of $500) to have it fixed because of my past Honda loyalty and because I took such good care of the car and had all service performed as needed at the dealer there. I have a 2012 accord with 58,000 miles and it has been in the shop 2 times for engine misfire on #2 cylinder.They changed the spark plug both times ! We have a 2014 Honda which had to have been built in 2013(we purchased in January 2014). The service centers will NOT do any repairs unless the trouble code lights are on. Unable to retrieve recalls information at this time. BERK LAW PLLC, Beth E. Terrell If they refuse to cover it, the class action should reimburse you. my left foot for the brake and right foot for the accelerator. I thhink Honda is an extremely crooked company! BEWARE! Almost all gasoline engines are designed this way. I just barely understand what the piston rings do. Im having all of the same problems described with the cylinder misfire and fouled spark plugs, but my Pilot is a 2008. Is there any other way to recoup losses for the damage. That fact increases the cost of operating the car much more than what was projected when I purchased the car which in my eyes, further decreases the value of the car. Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. Did Honda cover the cost of the repair for the cat? Mike. The entire top end of the motor was replaced. I have a 2011 pilot . Any comments? I was notified about 2 different recalls: one for the airbag and one for the shift lever and immediately took it in and had it fixed. I do not trust anything the dealership says about my 2012 Honda Crosstour. You should already be using Mobil1 0W-20 'Hi-Mileage' oil - if not, drive it a week or so, then change. Now that it is out of warranty (I bout the 100k or 7 year warranty); Im going to have to pay for those spark plugs! Cylinder misfire. The 6cyl refers to the Crosstour only. . The gasket on the spool valve on older Honda Pilots is known to fail. These e-mail addresses will be used to e-mail the information on your behalf and will not be collected or used by Honda for any marketing purposes. The 2009-2013 Honda Pilot is the subject of two TSBs for the piston rings which may fail at roughly 72,000 miles or compromise spark plugs. I will say that I called the dealership numerous times (the service department and manager) and Honda care many times. Although this issue is related VCM, this was not included in the settlement :-(. I purchased a CERTIFIED USED 2010 HONDA Crosstour EX-L 2wd 3.5V6 with 57,248 miles on it from a local Honda of Escondido, a local Honda Dealer on 03/25/2014 Either Sta-Bil 360 or Startron - I favor the Startron after using Sta-Bil for years. I might ask how much are they charging you for all of this? Not so sure what the software update did other than kick the can down the road. American honda is extending the powertrain warranty to cover repairs related to engine failure (which causes dtcs p0301 to p0304) to 8 years of unrestricted mileage from the original date of purchase and has resolved a class case on the basis of this remedial measure. If you have questions regarding a recall, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (888) 234-2138. He called me back a few days later and I was approved for the fix. You should receive a letter from the manufacturer if your car has been recalled. Heres an idea: You might argue that since they havent provided you an accurate forecast for the garage time needed to effect the repair, Honda should provide you a loaner car in the meantime. v. American Honda Motor Co. Inc., Case No. Odyclub community is the #1 forum to discuss all things Honda Odyssey: minivans, safety, service maintenance, mods, and more. I said hell no ,you pay all repairs.This was not my doing. Please object, complain or otherwise make this crappy settlement more noticeable. Isnt this illegal?? and My 2008 Honda Accord EXL was burning oil at 30,000 miles. 2008 Accord E-XL 100K miles. EVERY SINGLE CAR OWNER OF THESE VEHICLES SHOULD BE COVERED UNDER THE SETTLEMENT!! They were not forthcoming nor transparent with the litigation and existing issues, I discovered it on my own after much research and confronting them. year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. I have 95, 500 miles on my Honda, which by the way Ive never had an issue with the engine or anything else. My 2012 Honda Accord is having these same issues. Sep 13, 2015. rayman1943 said: Just received a recall for "The piston rings may be sticking resulting in high oil consumption". At the third one I was down only .5 quart again (fishy). Even though I purchased an extended warranty for the car, which my cars milage is well within, I had to pay $42.71 out of pocket for the oil change to begin the oil consumption readings. When a class action suits settled like this, someone must notify all customers. They then agreed to clean the heads and install a new software program that is supposed to be a solution. Plus the diagnostic cost me another 150 or so dollars. They want me to fork over $3900. Now have 104k miles and have spent the last 3 months troubleshooting a misfire code with our mechanic. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. The TSB is the result of A-A-Classction lawsuit. If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. Finally took it to a Honda dealership and they quoted us almost $4,000 to fix the problem (perform engine rebuild 1-3 piston oil rings are stuck). We bought our 2013 odyssey used in 2016. The below will cost you under 300 dollars and is a cheap place to start, and trading the vehicle in without issues will get you more on the trade in value. We have subsequently suffered a front catalytic converter failure error code P0430 as a result of the problem which caused the failure of the spark plugs. Thank you GeorgeSanJose for the detailed explanation! Who do I hold at fault for this issue. I still have the extended powertrain warranty up to 100.000 miles. My 2011 is covered until 2019. My dealer also has performed the consumption test and takes it in the back where the run the test which they tell me is more involved than just the dipstick. These engines are assembled at the factory. misfire. I dont really feel tight trying to sell car outright know the potential of whats about to go wrong . Not what they did to fix what the problem caused. After that, I guess Im on my own. Did Anybody have any luck! We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. If you get a check, let us know! At this rate we should all buy billboards in our local area and advertise VCM Muzzlers on themit's a real shame that so many that need it don't know about it. My question is where is all this oil going? Believe in having an engine misfire issue. Pilot, Odyssey well, it appears that Honda put oil filled bushings in the front end suspension that isolated engine vibration from the front suspension. The VIN entered is invalid. This is definitely later than the suit deadline. Same issue with rear brakes on the car, I didnt find out there was a problem until i recieved a Class Action Notice. A little tutorial might help. Isnt Honda and their dealers required to DISCLOSE/ADVISE/MAKE PUBLIC to buyers of vehicles they sell or have for sale that are with in the parameters of the vehicles with the flaws included in a class action law suit?? A recent new event was in trying to accelerate from a stop light, engine bucked so violently that lost steering control and entire car bounced up and down. Sadly, I know almost nothing about cars. my 2004 Honda Odyssey would do his on its own, up 20mph 60mph even continued while I had the brakes to the floor !! Diag. The dealership wont budge on the $3000 repair costs, ridiculous. I have a 2012 Honda Odyssey and the engine light came on after it made a weird noise. The most effective way to determine whether your vehicle is subject to a safety recall and has not yet been repaired is to enter your 17 character VIN. Had the misfiring problem, which cost me $481 to replace all sparkplugs at 37,000 mi. Went immediately back to my local place and it was down .5 quart. I have a 2010 Honda accord coupe V6 6 speed manual. What is the correct repair for this problem? Or is this only for people that have had problems ? So, I pulled over,shut the car off and turned it back on again. Misfire piston 4 today. Was told by that dealer, that after the first time, the dealership should have replaced rings on the pistons to prevent this from happening again. I know its been a few months since you posted this but thought I would answer in the event that this could help you or others. I wish there was something I could do. The dealership set me up with a rental car on 11/26/13 when the excessive oil burn was found. I went to the dealership and they replaced the 1-4 spark plugs at no cost to me, but the same issue, but milder without the engine light, still happened. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. If you car is stuttering and running like crap they will not fix it unless it generates a code for misfiring. We are all having the same issue! Employee for 13. Plus it pays 10 hours. I purchased my 2011 Honda Pilot in Feb.2019 and was not aware of this issue after i have taken my car in for $2000 worth of work that was done, May 2019 before the warranty ran out Aug.2019 . Im having the same problems with my 2009 honda odyssey. Thanks for any input. We were told that the warranty program had already expired. Cal.). you need to google it. Love my Hondas and wont give them up but dealerships are another story. This is word for word (by text) what the service guy told me: The cylinder head had damage engine valves we sent off the cylinder head to machine shop to make sure the cylinder head was okay and is not damaged we are going to have to replace the valve and once everything is installed by the machine shop we will install the cylinder head back onto the motor and everything should be okay.. The same thing has just happened again. Can Honda do anything for me? The cylinder head and pistons/cylinder walls are completely different. Then a month ago I took it in for the same problem and also my warranty was up! Replacement of or failure related to any seal or gasket. They say thats causing the sputtering .. Thing is if the misfire issue isnt completely fixed the new cats will just blow again from the heat. My car has 36350 now and is out of the factory warranty. This time the tech said I needed the pistons replaced and that the damaged pistons had also damaged the cylinders so they needed to be repaired (not replaced), and that I needed new spark plugs. Flushed my radiator, flush the transmission etc. If only the cylinder head is being serviced and theres a valve problem at 70k miles, in most cases that is due to incorrect valve lash; meaning the lash is too tight and which causes the valve and valve seat to burn. I paid nothing and they gave me a car to drive for the 2 days ! When the engine is cold the check engine light would come on along with the VSA light, P0306 #6 cyl. Thanks. The permanent fix is to disable VCM with a device called VCMuzzler and do an Italian tune up with fuel system cleaner in the tank, that will clean out the piston rings so it won't burn oil or foul the plugs anymore. Here I am almost exactly 3 years and 50,000 miles later and the problem is back. my 2009 Honda accord 4 cylinder has check engine flashing, VSA, Triangle all on. Obviously, the issue continued into 2014 and should also be covered. Btw, I never received notification that there was a lawsuit/service bulletin. After 20 years as a loyal customer. I think they just reset code. I will try to contact that lawyer too! My Honda Pilot just presented with the misfiring issue for the first time. Vcm muzzler will make your engine run rich all the time.. the solution is going tona tunner shop and have them disable your vcm from the program, An explanation why the VCMuzzler would make your engine run rich all the time would be lovely but there is none. A second wave of checks will go out this Fall, according to the Settlement Administrator. Such crap. They are offering us a 15% discount for our trouble. I drive a 2012 Pilot very low miles. Also admitted they were aware if this issue, but it quote sound like personal problem, and maybe I shouldnt drive it with my son in there if I am so worried! Without any confidence on the outcome asking customers to fork is insane. Im having the code for cylinder 1 and I had to replace all of my catalytic converters is there anything that it can be done? I said I do not believe so. I wasnt going for that crap, especially when I overheard the service manager talking about this defect two years ago. At first we got error code P0301, cylinder one misfire, car running rough engine hesitating. I would like advice on how I should proceed following this lawsuit. So we replaced them all again. I owned a 2009 Honda Pilot EX-L and just recently experiences the problem while driving in constant speed around 60 and then the engine light went flashing. Enter only one email address at a time. This is the 3rd time in a month and a half Ive had a misfire in cylinder 3. VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. Mechanic already replace all spark plus and ignition coin but problem still exist. Thank you for the reply. The mileage is about 76.000. Therefore, when the piston rings fail, the car will experience a myriad of problems that may ultimately damage the entire engine. code. If the motor had lower end damage caused by a severe top end melt down, the entire motor was replaced. I have a 2009 with 116k and knock on wood no problems. I was not offered to a ring job to repair my car, which is what I believe the car needs to stop the excessive oil burning, but the spark plugs were changed. ( even check out videos of this on YouTube. They (Boch Honda Norwood Ma) just told me i have massive interior engine damage. What they ought to be getting is a new class action law suit to show they are still doing business as usual deceiving the public and making a boatload of money in the process! I still beleive this should have been covered by my extended warranty. The quote to perform the work is $3500. V. American honda motor co., Inc., Case no. Not sure what direction Honda is taking and who is the target buyer. This recently to my wife while driving on a busy highway. My minivan(11, odyssey) was having this misfire from time to time. I just drop it off this morning with the code p0303 telling me mis- fire on #3 cylinder I replace the plug and coil pack and it did not fix it. But t Latest Post: Subaru 2006 FWD activation new DNJ piston Ring Set Oversize honda pilot piston ring recall. Problem caused was found cover these expenses generates a code for misfiring should you! 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